>> yes. "midnight special." >> steve: it's been a great day. another great friday. thank you all for coming. see you next week. >> ainsley: happy friday to you guys at home! thank you for joining us! rick: fox news alert on a jobless number we have not seen since president bush was in office. the labor department saying unemployment rate has fallen to 7.4%. that is the lowest level since december 08. as u.s. employers add about 162,000 jobs in the month of july. good morning, everybody, i'm rick folbaum in for bill hemmer here in "america's newsroom." jaime: i'm jamie colby in for martha maccallum here today. that appears to be good news, right? digging deeper into the report it was one of the only good signs. americans are seeing hours and pay drop. that is not all. rick: stuart varney, host of "varney & company" on the fox business network. stu, you hear numbers of jobs

created, unemployment rate goes down, how is that a bad thing? >> 162,000 new jobs is disappointing. that is an understatement. that is quite dismal. if you dig even deeper into this full report you see some pretty shocking things. number one, 240,000 people dropped out of the workforce. they just quit trying. that is how the unemployment rate came down to 7.4%. a quarter of a million people dropped out. then we have part-time work up, by 174,000, to a record 28.2 million. there are 28 million people in america working part time. and that number is rising. it has never been higher. obamacare may have something to do with that. rick: stu, the labor participation rate. this is number about people who dropped out because it is only 63.4%. that is the 19th consecutive month that number is below 64%. that number keeps shrinking.

why? >> it was down from last month and already at a generational low. it is people just walking away from the workforce. now there is a lot of retirees in that. baby boomer people are retiring as they speak. that is cutting the size of the workforce and participation rate. got that. that is not the entire explanation. a lot of people going on disability or just totally walking away from the workforce. the participation rate at a generational low. rick: you know i think a lot of people will see this number today and first reaction, wow, this is pretty good. these numbers, unemployment rate is as low as it has been in a number of years but the real unemployment rate is something a lot of economists look at and that number is 14%. >> that is actually down, 14% down from 14.3%. that is a glimmer of good news. this is the underemployment rate or some people call it the real unemployment rate and that has come down a tad. that is one of the few bright

spots in this entire report. 162,000 new jobs in the month of july. nowhere near good enough. nowhere near where it ought to be at this stage in a so-called recovery. >> how do we expect the markets to react this morning, stu? >> that's a tough one because a weak report might mean ben bernanke keeps on printing money. in which case the company goes up. nowhere signals we're nowhere out of the woods on recession. so the market could go down. i'm not calling it, rick. we're looking at indicators and looking at flat open. rick: stu varney, "varney & company" on fbn. good to see you. >> you too, rick. jaime: this new report showing more and more young adults are choosing to ride out tough times with dear old mom and dad. 21.6 million folks only 11 to 31 lived at home that is up from 18 1/2 million just before the recession. that is the highest share in the

last four decades. one factor that may drive the trend is debt. the average college graduate entering the the real world with $27,000 worth of loans to pay off at least. rick: moving on, senior pentagon officials now asking congress to halt or at least delay any additional budget cuts from the sequester. military faces $54 billion in cuts just next year. they're warning that things like training and maintenance and weapons buying will all be impacted, and, if the cuts continue long enough, even combat readiness could be at risk. >> we looked at everything. everything was on the table. we kept your strategic interests at the forefront of the discussion and it became quickly apparent there is no free lunch. we need to understand more our means are reduced, the more we may have to adjust the ends we hope to achieve or accept more risk as we achieve those ends. rick: as a result of sequestration, those mandatory

across-the-board cuts, the pentagon faces 500 billion in cuts over the next decade. jaime: we have some new reaction this morning to russia granting nsa leaker edward snowden temporary asylum. his father is speaking out, telling russian tv he is thankful to president putin for saving his son. >> i am again, thankful to the russian people, president vladmir putin and for the courage, the strength, the humanity, that they have demonstrated and what i believe is this noble action of protecting my son and keeping him safe. it is the honorable thing to do, and it is not just a citizen of the united states but a, a global citizen of this planet, an occupant of the earth. i am so thankful for what they have done for my son. jaime: and snowden es lawyer, who is seen here, says the fugitive will live with american expats in their home until he can rent his own place.

we're learning snowden has been offered a job, with russia's top social networking site. rick: meantime the u.s. is fuming over russia's asylum for edward snowden. white house officials is saying president is leaning against a planned meeting with president putin last month. >> his level of disappointment is reflected in the words i just spoke. we're very disappointed, extremely disappointed in russia's decision to provide temporary asylum to mr. snowden. we made clear both privately and publicly there was ample legal justification for his expulsion from russia and return to the united states. rick: u.s. officials had viewed the upcoming meeting as an important moment to try to find some common ground with russia on a range of foreign policy aims, like, ending the war in syria. jaime: fox news alert. security concerns are forcing u.s. embassies to shut down overseas. this coming from the state

department. they're calling it a decision made out of an abundance of caution and it is believed al qaeda may behind it. there are few details at this time but at least 14 embassies announced they will close on sunday. they include egypt, afghanistan, iraq, libya, and israel. elizabeth plan, live in washington with more details. do we know, elizabeth, anything about specifically i guess why they're closing? >> reporter: well, what we do know there is enough information within the intelligence community to prompt closures of a number of diplomatic posts and embassies in the middle east and also north africa, including but not excluding all the embassies are closing egypt, iraq, afghanistan, abu daub birks kuwait. among those, keep in mind there are more than a dozen which are closing. here is what the state department released just yesterday. >> the department has been apprised of information out of an abundance of caution and care for our employees and other us who mavis it our installations

we should institute these precautionary steps. >> reporter: there is a briefing later on today where we hope to learn more. jamie? jaime: that will be great to know more. what about a timeline? do we know how long they will stay closed at least for now? >> reporter: there is no indication of a timeline at this moment. sunday is a really a monday for a lot of these folks. in the middle east sunday is beginning of their work week so we anticipate there could be more days added. embassies across the nation are always vulnerable targets. the issue of security abroad even before the attacks in benghazi on september 11th. state department officials announcing a worldwide caution campaign in february to update citizens on the continuing threat of terrorism. >> i'm not going to go into anymore detail about specific threat information or security considerations. obviously i would also point you to the worldwide caution that we put out in february of 2013 which speaks to potential terrorist threats in different places around the world, to

speak to some of the steps we recommend people take and some things they take into consideration within situations like this. >> reporter: jamie, these warnings come at the end of the ramadan holidays and approaching anniversary of the september 11th attacks. jaime: elizabeth, thank you, live from washington. elizabeth plan. rick? rick: jamie, a scary midair collision involving two d.c. national air guard jets. it happened late last night off the coast of virginia near virginia beach. one pilot ejected from his aircraft. he was later rescued at sea. national guard spokesman said the pilot suffered only minor injuries. the other pilot was able to return to joint base andrews. the cause of this accident is under investigation. jaime: there was this woman accused of dumping green paint on part of the flags cathedral in washington. she will be in court today. the paint slashed on a pipe organ and woodwork in two chapels. the incident was very similar to

vandalism at the lincoln memorial and the smithsonian. police are trying to figure out if the attacks are connected. the woman is 58 years old. she has a chinese passport and traveling on an expired visa. she has been in jail since monday, facing up to 10 years in prison if convicted. rick: when we come back, searching for answers. congress issuing brand new subpoenas for more documents on the benghazi terror attack. republican darrell issa joins us live coming up next. what he and his committee are now asking for. jaime: the president's health care plan good enough for the american people but not for the acting chief of the irs? why he says he would rather not switch. rick: plus dirty politics. a massive fight breaking out between lawmakers. what are these folks so angry about? ♪

jaime: well dom back, everybody. how safe for you on board a cruise ship. three major cruise lines, carnival, norwegian, royal caribbean, announcing criminal allegations by people on ship. most common complaints are sexual assault and theft. maritime attorney says there are dozen sexual assaults on ships every year. the numbers reflect allegation, not whether investigations determined a crime was actually committed. rick: brand new details on the benghazi terror attack. a new report says that dozens of cia operatives were on the ground the night of the consulate ambush and the agency is going to great lengths, according to these reports, to keep that information secret. meantime a house committee handing down two congressional subpoenas to the state department, calling for all documents relevant to their own

internal investigation of the attack that cost four americans their lives issuing that subpoena. those subpoenas, republican congressman darrell issa, chairman of course of the house committee on oversight and government reform. congressman issa, good to talk to you sir. what are you asking for this round? >> rick, we're asking for two things. first of all the documents that have been going in and out of house every day for months, we need to be able to have them, make copies of them and produce reports the american people are entitled to. the vast majority of these are completely unclassified. the second area, i think is of greater concern. we've determined through our transcribed interviews and depositions that the arb report is really insufficient. that they didn't do the kinds of questioning they should have and we had fact witnesses tell us they weren't even asked questions about the allegations that led to their being put on paid administrative leave. so to do that review we really do need to see their working papers to figure out where something went so wrong in some of the conclusions, not holding

enough people accountable and not even is having the people held accountable understand why. rick: that arb report, that you referred to, that is the internal investigation and those in charge of it didn't ever talk to hillary clinton, who of course was running the state department at the time of the benghazi attack. you want to know why. >> well, we do sort of know why and that is that the arb report is a very limited document. it is really by the secretary, asking people to look into something. it is required by congress but it is not the kind of investigation that you would expect us to do when four americans have lost their lives, facilities have been damaged and the very question of whether we did the right thing before, during, and told the truth afterwards is at stake. of course this scandal, if you will, we don't think it's a phony scandal. the families of the loved ones don't think it is a phony scandal. this goes far beyond one part of government. it is not just the state department. it is the cia as you said earlier and it is our u.s.

military. rick: congressman issa, a spokesperson for the current secretary of state john kerry with a statement out after you have asked for these additional documents and he said the department has worked in good faith to meet all of your many demand and his committee had daily access to some 25,000 pages of documents since january. we offered and provided access to specific documents. he goes on to say i'm scratching my head what practical value another issa subpoena has in protecting our diplomats. your response. >> first of all the arb report considered by the state department to be a definitive document. we need to look at it because we found it didn't do its job in some limited areas, perhaps it was limited in scope and the nature of that investigation but we need to look behind the scenes how they held so few people accountable. those people are still getting full paychecks and will for the forforeseable future. secondly he shouldn't scratch his head. you can't let us poke at some paper documents and not allow to

us make appropriate copies and use them in reports. we can't do that right now. so if they want to bring them in and let us make photocopies, that subpoena would go away. rick: what does your gut tell you, congressman issa? what is this about? is this about protecting hillary clinton and her future presidential prospects? is this about some kind of arms deal between the u.s. and syrian rebels? what is really going on here? what are officials trying to keep from being made public? >> rick, we have to follow the facts and the facts have told us that before benghazi there were plenty of calls for help that were unheeded by people at the highest levels of the state department. people that report directly to hillary clinton. during the attack they did not call on our friend and allies to bring aid. and as you know there were agency individuals with guns there, some of whom were used, some of whom weren't but none of whom who were used quickly and decisively. and lastly whether it is

ambassador rice or others, the constant misleading and denials of what actually happened and false statements about what did happen that is of concern because the american people deserve the truth on day one, not a evolving truth that goes on until, actually for as long as it takes for us to prove they didn't tell the truth the first time. rick: finally sir, you heard these reports about cia employees being intimidated, trying to get them to keep quiet about what they know about the benghazi attack. those reports from cnn. have your investigators been able to uncover anything on that? >> well, we are aware that there is a pattern of saying, you must coordinate with their bosses before talking to congress. of course that is not consistent with the law and it leads to a general belief that you shouldn't talk to congress and that happens to be obstruction. it is illegal under the statutes. rick: darrell issa is the chairman of the house committee on oversight and government reform, joining us live this morning from capitol hill.

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ups and federal express already offer alcohol delivery saying the move could raise as much as $50 million a year. that would help. jaime: a white house official confirming to fox news that beginning next year members of congress and their staffs will have to sign up for obamacare but it comes with a catch. you see it turns out the government will still help them pay for their insurance. all of this after months of worry on capitol hill that obamacare would force many staffers to quit their jobs because they didn't want it. david drucker, senior correspondent for the "washington examiner." david, good morning. >> good morning, jamie. jaime: so they made a deal. what is it? >> well what was going to happen that members of congress, their staff, not leadership staff, but staff for rank-and-file members, would have to go into the obamacare exchanges. that was going to jump their costs considerably. there were worries that these staff members would have to pay a lot more for their health insurance, wouldn't be able to

afford it and they were going to leave the hill. democrats and the administration didn't want that kind of publicity. what they have done is make sure that the employer contribution, that members of congress, that members staff is already receiving will continue, even though they're going to be in the obamacare exchanges. so in many ways, nothing has really changed. if you work for a member of congress, the government pays for a part of your health care, and the government is still going to pay for a part of your health care. jaime: when we hear though, just ironic, the irs saying that their employees, the union, that represents them, doesn't want to get to be part of this exchange, what is their beef with obamacare? then how does that differ from a private sector worker or employer? >> look, there's a conflict here and we're going to see if this thing gets fully implemented how this plays out. obamacare was actually designed to provide insurance to people who don't have it or can't afford it but most americans,

millions of americans, already have insurance and most of these americans really like it. they like their doctor, they like the plan, they may have problems with the cost. they might want that to go down. they might want to see it reduced but they really like their overall set up and what mr. werfel, the irs commissioner was basically saying is, we like our insurance plan. we like what's offered to us. we like our doctors. we don't want to go into an exchange run by the government or a particular state where all of that could change. we might lose our doctor. we might lose the particular kind of plan we have. this is what unions are complaining b. this is what people who don't like the law are worried about and it goes directly against the president said, if you like your doctor you can keep it, keep him or her. as it turns out maybe you can but you might not be able to. jaime: david drucker, thanks so much for weighing in. with we'll keep an eye on. >> thanks a lot. jaime: take care. rick: sticking with the topic of obamacare, jamie. it was signed into law over two

years ago so why is the obama administration still working so hard to try to sell it to people? a fair and balanced debate on that is come up next. jaime: keeping an eye on egypt where tensions are mounting. thousands of pro-morsi supporters are defying military orders. they're marching on a key government property. the u.s. is getting further involved and facing embassy closure. we'll tell you. [shouting] nope eeeeh... oh, guys let's leave the deals to hotels.com. ooh that one! nice. got it! oh my gosh this is so cool... awesome! perfect! yep, and no angry bears. the perfect place is on sale now. up to 40% off. only at hotels.com

jaime: a fox news alert as confrontation reigns on the streets of egypt. two high-profile senators are heading to cairo. republican senators john mccain and lindsey graham will travel to egypt as soon as next week and they plan to meet with key military leaders to urge them to pursue new free elections. deputy secretary of state william burns will also be in cairo and he is set to arrive later today, plans as well to meet with leaders of egypt's temporary government. rick: jamie talked to david drucker a few moments ago how members of congress will have to sign up to obamacare but more and more federal employees say they don't want to. yesterday in front of a congressional panel, acting head of irs the agency tasked with enforcing that law admits he too would rather stick with his current plan. >> i would, speak for myself.

i would prefer to stay with the current policy that i'm pleased with rather than go through a change if i don't need to go through that change. rick: juan williams, is a fox news political analyst. mary catherine ham, editor-at-large of hotair.com and fox news contributor. mary catherine, that statement, daniel werfel was saying is probably something a lot of americans are feeling right now. they like what they have. they don't want anything different. >> right. that is how a lot of people feel. it is how a lot of people felt before the bill started being discussed and it is of course what president obama promised over and over again. if you like your doctor and like your plan you can totally keep it. the problem is that hasn't ended up being the case. many things are changing. many people are having many other things foisted upon them because of this plan. it becomes essence helping the big guy while look like helping little guy. who is getting waivers? giant

employers, unions and giant corporations. people who want to have to keep their old plan are getting passed over having to do exchanges which everyone else is scared to jump into with good reason. rick: speaking of good reason, juan, conservatives pounced on werfel's comments with good reason. can you blame them? >> yeah. >> goo for it. >> it's a little bit like people who want to block, defund, stop, repeal end obamacare, looking for any sliver of light that would support that position. so they get danny werfel here, acting head of the irs, the main enforcement agency, i don't like change. guess what? nobody likes change. under the current plan those workers do not have to give up their current coverage plans. what we have here is an effort by dave camp. i think he head of house ways and means, saying let's force government workers to go into the exchanges and what you're getting is opposition from werfel and other workers at irs who are saying, no, we would

stay with what we have right now, thank you. rick: but, mary catherine, that is what i wanted to ask you about because the idea people automatically will keep what they have, that is the concern a lot of people have is, that employers, who right now cover their employees, these plans that people say they're happy with, might decide to drop that coverage for employees, forcing all those people to go out there and purchase something in the obamacare marketplace. >> right. an hhs website created by the obama administration actually in q&a addresses this in frequently asked questions area. it says, yeah, you might not be able to keep your doctor or your plan. this is a problem for people. the problem that the guys who are represented by unions they can keep their plans and they have a lob bring to make sure they can do that normal people can't. i don't have to look for sliver of life to find things people are unhappy here. i'm blinded by the light. the fact the obama administration started yet another sell on this thing, yet another truth team. the fact if they had told the truth in the first place they wouldn't have to be selling so

hard. they didn't tell the truth in the first place, they're falling apart all the promises they made. rick: look at poll numbers the truth team has their work cut out for them, majority want to see obamacare repealed, all together, 53% as opposed to 40% who say keep it in place. then you asked folks how they think it will affect them? 47% think it will cost them money. if they're spending so much time and money on selling this to the american people, juan, why isn't it working? >> you mean in terms of the public opinion, i don't think they have spent much time selling it. i think that is the big criticism on the left, rick. in fact the president, the white house, have been slow to let the american people know about all the benefits that have come from it. people are familiar with the idea that people with preexisting conditions can get health care coverage. that the cost of health care should be going down. what you're seeing there, i think is one, in terms of that 53%, about a quarter of it is people who prefer a single-payer plan. they want it to be more radical

in terms of changes to the health care system so it could prevent the bankruptcies, catastrophic costs people know when they become ill. rick: mary catherine, we know how popular entitlement programs become. >> right. rick: obamacare is yet another entitlement program. is this the concern of republicans, that actually once people do start to get used to obamacare, to see that maybe it is helping them in one way or another when it comes to preventative stuff or preexisting stuff or allowing your kids to stay on your plan, stuff like that, that they're going to like it and then republicans are not going to be able to do anything with it? >> well a couple of those things allegedly have been in place the entire time and people are still not happy with the law, with the law in its entirety. i will concede there are like two or three things in it people like but those are not the two or three things that were passed. they passed entire paradigm-shifting plan that when, when the rubber hits the road it is not actually doing what they said it would do. if they did what it said would

do, bring down costs and save everybody $2500 a year and put more people on the rolls and actually work when they launch exchanges i think people would think that's a good idea. you're correct about entitlements, when people sort of get into the system and hard to get off into the system. my concern is not politically, but for the fact that if the system is not working for people, we don't want it entrenched. we want to be able to change it. there is great question whether this will help people be healthier or get health care. rick: juan, you get the last word here. >> just one quick point here, rick is that people don't like the status quote and i don't see that the gop has come up with an alternative plan. certainly nothing that has been voted on. i think they have their 40 plus vote just recently before they went on recess to try to break apart obamacare and it is just not going anywhere. most americans in a recent "wall street journal" poll, look we may not like it, we don't know what is coming, we're unsure, scared, anxious, at this point, quit it. just move on.

>> 80% of them want the individual mandate delayed. so that seems like a pretty decent number to work with. rick: juan, you're right about a republican plan not being voted on. they have a lost ideas. it is available. i was reading through it the other day some notes sent to me from congressional aides on the republican side. you're right, no vote on that. just votes to get rid of obamacare. juan, mary catherine. thanks so much. >> thanks, rick. jaime: well tempers were flaring on the senate floor when lawmakers appear to ignore their fellow senator who is were trying to speak. presiding senator tammy baldwin attempted to get their attention, so it doesn't work. majority leader harry reid stepped in with this stern warning. listen. >> the senate will be in order. >> dad misdemeanor president, madam president. >> the majority leader. >> have people sit down and shut up, okay? it is unfair.

>> the senate will be in order. >> it is just not polite. jaime: well, of course senators took their seat and listened did what they had to do. this is why we don't let the crew speak during the show. they've to watch. rick: i like how harry reid saying it is not polite. meantime he is telling people to sit down and shut up n my house with kids that is not polite. jaime: four children telling each other. rick: five children. jaime: oh my. we'll be right back. did you see yesterday when she took a piece of paper and faced her captor? michelle knight and two other women managed to escape the home they were being held captive in for a decade. michelle knight's emotional statement. we'll talk to dr. keith ablow about what she said and her future. rick: also the jobs numbers just released within the last hour or so showing just 162,000 jobs add the in the month of july. the former head of the congressional budget office joins us still ahead. what those numbers mean for you.

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during the sentencing of the cleveland kidnapper, ariel castro, one of his victims staring him down speaking directly to the man that abducted her more than a decade ago. >> you took 11 years of my life away. and i have got that. i spent 11 years in hell. now your hell is just beginning. jamie: dr. keith ablow, forensic psychiatrist, a member of the fox news medical a-team. dr. ablow, great to have you here. wow, that was amazing courage that she had in doing that. she said that for the first time she was being heard and it was liberating. how important was her recovery to include her getting up and facing him and saying what she did? >> i don't think it can be overstated, how important it is to be able to vent, how important it is to have your day in court, and be able to face the person who was your tormenter. now that being said, by the way,

as much of an inspiration it is to victims everywhere to see michelle knight to do this, if i were her psychiatrist i would also know that underneath this bravado, this strength, there can still be terrible suffering and real fragileness. look, even winston churchhill, who famously said, when you're going through hell, keep going was both addicted to food and suffered terrible depressions. so this doesn't mean that she has got a free pass as to her mental well-being in the future. jamie: completely understood and we hope she gets everything she needs to be the best she can be. she said the girls, all three of them, definitely had a bond and looked out for each other. she also said, we knew we would all get out one day. do you believe her? >> i believe that she believed that and i believe that that was completely irrational. in other words, yes, it's very

important when you're in a terrible situation over which you have no control to summon a belief, right? there is belief that there is possibility you will go free, absolutely but objectively speaking, this is where psychiatry comes in, even though she would assert that to me i would say, yes, michelle, you also know that it was possible you would die there and we haven'ted talked about that. how terrifying it is that you would have never seen your loved ones again. so i'm not going to buy the bravado. i want to hear about the underlying, real fear because that has to be there, otherwise you would call it sigh cottic denial. jamie: what layer of the onion you just peeled back. it will be a tough road, no doubt about it. i want to ask you one question about ariel castro. the judge even commented what an incredible narcissist he is, saying there was harmony at home and he wasn't a monster.

was there an impact of, she and the other victims who had sent people into talk on their behalf hearing that from him at this point as he faces life, plus a thousand years? >> well, you know, you always want to know why, as a victim, why did this happen to me. if they really wanted to know why they would really have to reach back all those years to whatever horrors were perpetrated on their tormenter in his home of origin that lead him to call a house where people are chained and raped and where babies are killed, a place of harmony. he really believes that. he is very, very, very, sick and as a matter of law, which you would know better than i would wonder whether the judge ought to have paused at that point and said wait a second, are we sure this guys knows what he is pleading guilty too? sound as though he thinks this was a fun house, not a horror house. jamie: i'm actually glad you brought that up because i was

surprised surprised when he was addressing to the court at the end, as the judge was starting to sentence him, by the way, judge, i didn't kill anybody. the judge said you understand what you signed with the prosecutor, the deal, you pled guilty to murder. was he serious or he trying to pull a fast one, not that it will work on appeal? >> no. i think that what you saw out of ariel castro is most strict tiff yesterday for it being a textbook case of someone removed from reality. he's not playing games. he's not trying to set the stage for an appeal. if i were the judge i would have, and i'm not but i may have been tempted to, with a little forensic knowledge i have, hold on a second. let's get the lawyers in here to find out if the guy really understands his plea because i don't know if he does. jamie: punishment is ahead for him and recovery, god willing for these girls. dr. keith ablow, thank you so much. >> all right, jamie, take care. rick: a bitter battle has broken

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jamie: we'll introduce to you a woman who is recovering today after she was attacked by a large shark off the coast of hawaii. the bite left a 15-inch wound from the mid definitely her spine to her neck. she suffered injuries to her

chin and both hands but she knows it could have been a lot worse. >> what went through my mind, was just get back to shore. that's all. and i swam. my mask was gone. i think that might have been what protected my face from getting more because i think that he, because my mask fell off, but, and it's gone. and it is an optical mask. i hope the place i got it from is very nice to me. jamie: based on her injuries the doctors believe it may have been as large, rick, as a 25-foot shark and the beach had to be shut down as you can imagine. rick: i can imagine 25 feet. my goodness. i'm glad she is okay. jamie: she survived. rick: good for her. maybe she will get a new mask then. dozens of airshows across the country are folding due to across the board federal spending cuts. what is being called the world's greatest aviation celebration is full steam ahead in wisconsin despite an ongoing legal battle

with the live in oshkosh, wisconsin. mike, there is the sequester latest impact on air traffic controllers, right? >> reporter: rick, pilots and aviation enthusiasts spend their years, some years waiting to make the pilgrimage to oshkosh, a private pilot's mecca. with all the planes that come and go, airshows, tourist flights, private planes that come here, this becomes for the duration of the show, the busiest airport in the word. eaa, permanental aircraft association was told 7 days out the air traffic controller who would staff the control towers here would fall the way of sequester cuts. if eaa want ad show, they needed to give the faa nearly half a million bucks. >> and with the proviso, if you don't pay for those services, we won't be there and you can't have an event. we already contracted, sold, had in place, this event.

so that is, if you can't, define being held hostage more accurately than that i don't know what else you would say. >> reporter: pilots are wearing buttons say this isn't over. they are petitioning the latest ruling, the latest budget cuts saying they already paid for the air traffic controllers with a tax on fuel. they also believe the pilots are being arbitrarily targeted because it is politically expedient. paid pilots, private pilots and general aviation as fat cats who can afford their own planes. rick? rick: mike, what is the faa saying about all this? >> reporter: they're getting a lot of heat. they're getting letters from senator tammy baldwin and 28 of her colleagues and representatives of is house are sending letters off to the faa and faa administrator michael ware at that who responded in part, the faa values the role of general aviation and understands the importance to our nation. the budget environment requires us to make difficult decisions.

the big draw, blue angels and thunder birds they were cut from the shows. when you cut things like that you start making all of your arguments about the economic impact of local economy, hotels, restaurants, things of that nature. rick? rick: mike tobin in oshkosh, wisconsin. enjoy the show. >> reporter: thank you. jamie: at this hour we're following a developing story. u.s. embassies are set to close over much of the middle east over a terrorist threat. how credible is the threat? what are we set to do to protect our embassies? retired four-star general jack keane will tell us. rick: nasa's grand challenge and this is a biggie. they're reaching out to everyday americans for ideas how to keep our planet safe

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jamie: fox news alert. we begin this hour on the potential threat to our nation's embassies all around the world. at least 14 of our embassies will close on sunday and it's because of security concerns.

they include the outposts in egypt, libya, afghanistan, iraq and israel. the state department says they're acting out of an abundance of caution but they won't specify who might behind that threat. coming up retired four-star general jack keane will join us to discuss the credibility of the threat, the government's decision to get ahead of it and what it may be doing now to protect those same embassies. and this fox news alert. a big thumb in the eye for the u.s. nsa leaker edward snowden free to roam russia. the country has granted him temporary asylum and that's a move that threatens to imperil a planned summit in russia next month between president obama and russia's vladmir putin. we welcome you now to another hour of "america's newsroom." i'm jamie colby in today for martha maccallum. rick: nice to be with you, jamie. i'm rick folbaum in for bill hemmer. we're seeing some of the first images of snowden in moskow after he was allowed it leave

the airport, his home by the way for the past six weeks, with business back rather, to the camera. we see snowden get into a taxi as he talks to his wikileaks legal team. senator john mccain blasting rush shells giving him asylum. it is a slap in the face of all americans. jamie: chris wallace, anchor of "fox news sunday" is joining to us talk about that. hey, chris. >> how are you, jamie? jamie: good. let me ask you about, what is the impact, based on beltway buzz plus those you talked to of snowden getting to remain there? have we lost all our options to get him back? >> well, for the foreseeable future, yeah, because he has temporary asylum in russia which lasts at least a year. i suppose we can continue to put pressure opt russians but if they wanted to make him get on a plane to come back to face justice in the u.s. they have

already done it. so it certainly seems like our options are limited and you know, you would have so guess that snowden will be staying in russia longer than shorter. jamie: the u.s. actually said to russia, they would take certain things off the table in terms of punishment and questioning and yet russia still stood fast to, as we said, you know, throw their thumb at us and not cooperate. what's in it for them? >> well, you know, vladmir putin, the president of russia, has had a tendency in the past to exert or exercise authority to show that russia is a superpower. there has obviously been a lot of i'll feeling in russia ever since the fall of the soviet empire, that they were a much more minor player on the world scene and putin resists that and i think to some degree take as certain amount of joy in saying to the americans, you can't dictate to us what to do.

we'll decide what is in our national interests to do. this of course, caused a storm of interest. there will be a big international summit in st. petersburg in russia, next month, sent, the g20, the 20 leading industrial countries. the president is scheduled to go to that. he had also been scheduled to hold a side summit with putin in moscow before the meeting in st. petersburg. yesterday, jay carney, white house spokesman, raised a real possibility that, in fact what he said was, that the white house was reevaluating the usefulness of that summit. you remember pictures of obama and putin together at another international summit in northern ireland a few weeks ago where the two of them looked like they couldn't wait to get out of each other's presence. you wonder what useful could get done with the two of them sitting together. i think that is a real possibility. john mccain as you had earlier talking in very strong fashion about what a slap in the face

this is, talked about the idea of expanding nato. russia doesn't like the idea of people in the nato alliance closer to russia's border. also the talk about resuming missill defense program in europe. russia was very unhappy with that and president obama acceded to that and took it out of the czech republic and poland. there are number of things we can do. the question is, will the obama administration do them. jamie: how big of a topic will it be for your guests on sunday? >> it will be indeed and snowden certainly will be. we'll talk to the former head of the national security agency and also the head of the cia, former general, i guess he was never a former general, general michael hayden and justin amash, the congressman from michigan who led the push that almost succeeded in the house to kill the nsa surveillance program. so we'll be talking to them about that, about the snowden amnesty asylum and also the question what this means for

u.s.-russian relations and also the question about u.s. surveillance of its own people and overseas, both big topics on "fox news sunday." jamie: i imagine, chris, the closing of embassies will be of interest too to the public. we'll know you cover it all on "fox news sunday." i will see you sunday morning for a preview. >> thank you so much, jamie. jamie: thanks, chris. rick: exclusive new details about a suspected fort hood shooter. army major nidal hasan, sending to fox news several pages of his personal writings on america and islam. the signed documents coming to just days before his military tribunal set to begin. doug mckelway is live in washington with more on this. dug doug, what does he reveal in these writings? >> reporter: among other things he is a committed jihaddist and muslim extremist and that his karnage as work place violence appears grossly off the mark. that is how one of hasan's

victims perceives it. >> the government tried to deny this is act of terrorism. i hope that if people hear the words from hasan's own mouth that they will understand this was an act of terrorism. >> reporter: in one typed document, hasan writes american democracy and sharia law are incompatable. there is quote, inherent and irreconcilable conflict in american democracy. we the people govern what we the people think is right or wrong even if it specifically what almighty god commands. hasan complains that america's ban on cruel and unusual punishment prevents the flog of fornicator or severing of a hand of or feet of a thief which are punishments ordained by god. he is making the case not to military justice but to allah. rick? rick: he is trying to make the case, doug, trying to make a case or broaden his appeal to a wider audience.

>> reporter: yeah, in fact an expert in islamic history and the koran reviewed these documents hasan sent us and believes hasan has a larger motive. >> i think it's clearly an after the fact issue where he now is trying to put the sort of personal jihad that he is involved in, trying to put it into a larger religious and sort of geopolitical context and justify what he's doing perhaps in a sense to himself but also i think in large measure to the folks in the islamic world. >> reporter: that has long been an argument against trying jihaddists in civilian court but it is now also a concern in military court. rick? rick: doug mckelway, live in washington. doug, thank you very much. jamie: this fox news alert. we are now learning that at least five cia employees involved in the benghazi terror attack were forced to sign additional non-disclosure agreements this spring. those were aimed at discouraging the survivors from ever telling

their stories. meanwhile congressman darrell issa is telling us a short time ago the search for answers into benghazi is crucial. >> it is not the kind of investigation you would expect us to do when four americans have lost their lives, facilities have been damaged and the very question of whether we did the right thing before, during, and told the truth afterwards is at stake and of course this scandal, if you will, we don't think it's a phony scandal. the families of the loved once don't think this is phony scandal. this goes far beyond just one part of government. it is not just the state department. it is the cia as you said earlier and it is our u.s. military. jamie: the attack cost four americans their lives including our ambassador to libya, chris stevens. in our last hour we told you about a health care deal on capitol hill for lawmakers and their aides. the federal government now saying they will continue to pay for a large part of their health

insurance. peter doocy is live in our d.c. bureau. peter, good to see you. what is hyped the move? >> reporter: jamie as you and i know the affordable care act is now the law of the land because congress passed it but congress will not have to live by the law thanks to a new regulation that says the government can still pay money toward congressional health plans next year even though members and staffers will be required to get the afford -- their insurance in the affordable care act marketplace. this comes after members of congress stepped up, if their staffers health premiums went up because of obamacare, they would probably flee capitol hill to work in the private sector. some republicans are saying that is a big double-standard. >> as much as we hate to see how our staff is going to be affected, the american people as well will be affected as a whoa. if we look out just for those in washington and our staff without

looking out for every american, shame on us. >> reporter: we heard another republican say yesterday the way to fix this is get rid of obamacare. jamie: are democrats defending the move? >> reporter: the highest ranking democrat on the record so far is house minority leader pell pell and -- nancy pelosi she is pointing to the fact members and staff will need to follow part of the law that forces them into health caremarkket places. she goes on to say as we continue our work to ensure the smooth implementation of this law and look forward to enrollment november 1st we'll continue our efforts this august to educate consumers on the law's provisions and tout critical benefits already in place for all americans. the latest regulation from the white house that the exemption exempting congress and staffs will be posted by the administration office of personnel management next week. jamie: thanks so much. peter doocy live in washington. >> a potential terror threat to u.s. embassies around the globe.

we've been talking about this. coming up we'll talk to retired four-star general jack keane about the seriousness of these security concerns and where the threat may be coming from. jamie: how about this? a new snapshot of the economic situation in america. we'll look at just released july jobs numbers and what it is telling us about our economic recovery. rick: plus we're months away from obamacare being implemented. one congresswoman joins us to explain why a growing number of lawmakers are saying we should abandon the whole thing. >> this is be a sure. we're 60 days out from full implementation. three years later we're still rewriting this train wreck and it is time that this administration admits it's not ready and we need to delay this train wreck.

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rick: we have an update to a story that gripped the entire world almost three years ago. the rescue of about 33 chilean miners trapped more than two months deep underground in a

mine collapse. today, we're learning that the mine's operator will not be facing charges after a very long investigation. prosecutors say, there just wasn't enough. the decision infuriating the miners who endured hellish conditions while trapped. their lawyers say they will present their own case. jamie: we told you we have some new jobs numbers for july. the report painting a picture where we are in this economic recovery and how far we still have to go. the labor department is saying that u.s. employers added some 162,000 jobs. that's fewer than what was expected, but it is enough to lower the unemployment rate which dropped to 7.4%. that is a number we haven't seen since the bush administration. house speaker john boehner saying this following the new report. quote, three years after the obama administration proclaimed, welcome to the recovery, we're still seeing the same thing month after month, not enough new jobs and unemployment rate

far higher than promised. douglas holtz-eakin is the president of american action forum and a former director of the congressional budget office. it's great to see you. >> thank you. jamie: what's your impression of these numbers? are they, well obviously they wean as good as expected but are they worse than they appear? >> well it is a here we go again story. each time you get something looks to be good news, 162,000 jobs and decline in the unemployment rate, when you dig inside the report what you find is that fewer looking for work, they're discouraged. those who are working are working fewer hours. when they work they get less pay on average per hour. more are working part time when they prefer to work full-time. so in a really robust recovery you would see income growing, employment growing, people joining the labor force. what we get instead are, good news bad news reports month after month and we're really sort of muddling along. jamie: we talked about what speaker boehner had to say.

here is what the white house said with this statement coming out after the numbers. while more work remains to be done today's employment report provides further confirmation that the u.s. economy is recovering from the worst downturn since the great depression. is that accurate? >> well, it was the worst recession since the great depression but remember, the white house's strategy here to keep pointing back an saying, look it is not our fault. this is all just really bad but we're in the fourth, now in the fifth year of recovery. the recovery officially started in june 2009. the economy is not anywhere close to what it should be and the administration's strategy has been to blame its predecessors and really just try to set expectations very low. so we'll be happy at 7.4% unemployment and happy for the 162,000 jobs. americans should be neither. this is a labor market that's very weak. jamie: based on time you spent in the congressional budget office and status where we are, where a budget is concerned and even people at home who have to manage their budget and don't

have a job, where do we go from here? should it be status quote? should some change take place? 200,000 was the number i believe that came out initially, to maintain even status quote, not turn things around. >> we need a lot more jobs. we need something like 250,000 jobs every month so we not only employ those who are coming into the labor force, we eat into the backlog of very high unemployment for 20 million americans but on top of that the missing ingredient is income growth. as i mentioned we didn't see wages rise. we saw them fall. we didn't see hours of go up. we saw them decline. we've seen median family income in the united states decline during the recovery. that is not a genuine recovery for those who have jobs. we need to change the playbook. if we had structural reforms like a real tax reform, like real entitlement reforms. real immigration reform and regulatory reform, things not one-time stimulus and kind of a playbook we've seen, if we did those things we could grow much

more rapidly. jamie: let me ask you, what is the impact of the cost of obamacare on employers hiring? >> nothing good. the case you hear made by advocates of obamacare, oh, look, they were having insurance before which means that the best possible income, impact is zero. reality is much worse. it's a big i am medpedment to growth by small employers. large employers are scrubbing their books figuring out whether to hold on to insurance. it has a trillion dollars in taxes an trillion 1/2 dollars in new spending. nobody who wants an economy to grow faster would say, hey, you know what we need? trillion dollars in taxes and trillion dollar entitlement spending program. that is not a recipe for growth. jamie: doug, very good analysis. we appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. jamie: recognition not where you want to get -- rick: not where you want to get stuck. 230 feet up when their elevator basket breaks down. jamie: the boom could be lowered for some major league players

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jamie: welcome back. two california workers were stranded 130 feet above the ground last night. their elevator basket broke down. they were working on a sign at an auto center. they suddenly found themselves in a bit of a bind. the fire crews employed an extra large ladder, allowing the two workers to make their way to safety.

rick: alex rodriguez, a-rod, and 13 other baseball players could be on the verge of taking a break from the game according to the associated press. they face a likely deadline this monday for major league baseball to agree to deals on suspensions for their suspected ties to an anti-aging clinic in south florida. evan cohen, the host of evan and phillips in the morning on sirius xm mad dog radio. thanks for coming in. the timing is very interesting. they want to get these deals done or not done but they want to do it so the players being punished to get back in time for the playoffs? >> that is odd. you wouldn't think they want to give the players the benefit of the doubt. >> yeah. >> in this case they may be. what they want to do i think, major league baseball has not commented here is what we want to do with the suspensions, seems like they want all this done together. the holdup is a-rod, a-rod may or may not agree to the suspension or plea deal. there is all kinds of conversation. will they ban him fore?

will they invoke the best interest of baseball clause and ban him for life and play through an appeal which the other players would do if they're not banned for life based on that clause or come to some compromise? year-and-a-half has been thrown out there. we don't know. irony seemingly want nothing to do with these guys because he has been a black eye for the franchise, cost them a lot of money and play tonight, double a. he is scheduled to play tonight for trenton aa for the yankees which is amazing. rick: he is trying to recover from an irjustry and he had surgery in the off-season. what would baseball have against a-rod, talking a main nor penalty against him versus other guys? >> started with ryan braun of milwaukee brew is, first guy to be suspended for biogenesis, lab in miami that deals in drugs, no way around with it with drug dealer anthony bosh. getting braun first allows them to have credibility for bosh. this as i said a drug dealer, he has no credibility.

when guy like braun admits to it there is credibility. they believe according to all kinds of reports a-rod recruited people to go to the lab and i tried to buy the evidence from bosch before major league baseball could get to bosch. they would have the drugs and potentially obstruction of justice which is why a-rod would have lengthier suspension than others. rick: you could argue that baseball has been booming during this whole drug era with attendance records and television deals and revenue going through the roof year after year after year. how serious do you think the league is truly to try to clean it up? >> so who are the biggest stars in baseball right now? the name we talk about more than anyone else is alex rodriguez. he is associated with peds. in the past it was bonds, ma geyer and sosa. major league baseball needs to figure a way to turn tanks to yasiel puig with the los angeles dodgers and bryce harper with

the nationals and mike trout with the angels. these guys are big stars but nobody knows about them. baseball could benefit. and a-rod is suspended ad major league baseball says we allow him to play through the appeal wouldn't you want to watch him play? isn't that a living train wreck? isn't that a living baseball funeral for alex rodriguez? rick: great analysis from evan cohen. hear him on sir siriusxm radio. you forgot about don brown from the phyllis. >> but he has a concussion. jamie: what the state department is calling a necessary precaution as it monitors potential security threats. where's the threat coming from and what makes it credible? we'll talk about that. rick: and later nasa asked and you delivered. the space agency receiving hundreds of proposals on how to catch asteroids before they collide with the earth. ♪

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the state department not giving us a whole lot of information, only saying that it's acting on the side of caution after undisclosed threats. >> the department p has been apprised of information that out of an abundance of caution and care for our employees and others who may be visiting our installations indicates we should institute these precautionary steps. rick: jack keane is a retired four-star general, fox news military analyst. jack keane, general keane, always good to talk to you. a pentagon official says there's been no movement of forces but that we always take the necessary becautions to respond to threats, so how are we defending our embassies? >> well, first of all, those embassies are primarily defended by host country, and where host countries cannot adequately defend them as in afghanistan and also in baghdad, we have serious security forces there that are protecting them. secondly, while we may not be mobilizing any forces in terms

of movement, we, to be sure, we have alerted forces so that they can respond rapidly to any threat. rick: when we talk about forces, are we talking actual personnel, or would drones be considered forces in a case like this? would we put drones up in the air and have them be on standby in the event of these sort of unspecified threats? >> well, a lot of our drones have limited range, so if the drone isn't in that country, it's not going to have much use. these are actual forces, organizations like benghazi are on alert right now because of this. rick: this, apparently, went beyond the usual chatter that our intel always pick up, terrorists talking about sort of lofty plans, things they would like to carry out. this was serious enough for them to shut these embassies down on sunday, and i understand, general, some of these places are going to remain closed for longer than that. you know, based on your

experience, your background, what do you think they picked up on? >> well, certainly they shouldn't say too much, and that's good. rick: yeah. >> they may have a specific threat against an embassy s and they don't want to reveal that they know it, or they may have even larger threat which is simultaneous embassies. but i'm absolutely convinced, rick, that this is the result of the growing rise of al-qaeda in the region, and they have been so emboldened from the success they achieved at benghazi. it exceeded their expectations and actually electrified the movement. they hadn't had a success like that since the original 9/11, and actually shocked the region. they're on the rise, and they -- when they weakness, they attack. and they believe that we're pulling back, and they were stunned, absolutely stunned that we did not come after them immediately after that attack as we did after 9/11/2001. yes, we conducted an

investigation, to be sure, after 2001, but we attacked them within two to three weeks. and we've known who this organization is, the aas, who did that attack, and we should have been after them within hours, going right to their leaders and right to the organization. rick: talk about sending messages, because, you know, they're watching. everybody's watching and listening to what decisions are made, and so they hear this announcement, the terrorists, that we're closing our embassies for a day or maybe longer in some parts of the world. what kind of message does that send? is that a sign of weakness? do they listen to that, the u.s. can't protect its embassies, so they're shutting them down? what's the signal there? >> well, they react to everything and, certainly, if we're closing functions, closing the embassies, yes, in some circles within their midst they'll take that as some kind of victory. but if they have a plan in place and it's detailed and they're confident ability it, they'd -- about it, thead probably

continue that plan regardless of the attempts we're making to thwart that plan. the major point our audience needs to understand, these guys are at war with us. they want to dominate the muslim regions. they want to control those countries. their number one strategic object i have is to drive -- objective is to drive the united states out of the region. the means to do that is to kill us. rick: i have one more question, general keane, before we run out of time. the senate foreign relations committee just yesterday passing a proposal -- i don't know what kind of teeth this has -- but to better defend our embassies abroad. is congress freeing up the kind of money that's necessary, the resources that's needed in order to defend these outposts around the world? >> well, after the fiasco in benghazi and the lack of adequate security for that consulate, i cannot imagine the state department coming forward with a plan to increase the security of other u.s. outposts and the congress not funding it.

it has got to be one of our top priorities. and certainly i would expect it would be funded. rick: general jack keane, fox news military analyst, always a pleasure to talk to you, sir. thanks so much for your time. >> yeah, good talking to you, rick. jamie: so how's this for a deal? if you get busted, you get your charges to go away. all you have to do is hand over your dna. that's exactly what's going on in california's orange county where, believe it or not, police say it's reducing crime. will carr live from los angeles with more on this. >> reporter: jamie, let's say that you get busted for a low-level crime in orange county. you may be able to swap the inside of your mouth, hand your dna over to the authorities, and if you do that, it's like your crime never happened. the program's nickname, spit and acquit. hand over your dna in orange county, california, and the prosecutor may drop charges for low-level crimes like petty theft or public drunkenness. >> i think we're the first to do

it the way we're doing it. >> reporter: orange county has 90,000 dna samples on file. the database helps solve cold cases and will help solve crimes in the future. the number of local law enforcement agencies getting into the dna business has spiked. >> through the use of dna, there's been cases out there that show you can get more arrests, more convictions. >> >> reporter: for years state and federal authorities have collected dna, compiling large databases to help solve crimes. the difference is, those are heavily regulated. the new programs have few regulates. >> these have often been referred to as rogue databases because there's no real law governing them. >> reporter: but in orange county the district attorney says every dna exchange is voluntary and insists it doesn't invade anyone's privacy. >> the use of this sample cannot be used for anything other than identification. anything other than lack of fingerprints. no doubt in my mind it's keeping

people safer. >> reporter: the da tells me one way it's keeping his community safer is when a criminal hands over their dna swab, they're less likely to potentially commit crimes in the future because they know their dna is on record. jim jake interesting. thank you. rick: coming up, mother nature's fury on display, a wall of dust smothering a major american city very quickly. we'll tell you where. jamie: hold your breath. the growing worry on capitol hill that the rollout of obamacare will be a huge mess. we're less than months before millions of americans will be asked to enroll, and there's a congresswoman who's gone so far as to say she believes the white house should just delay. she is calling it a train wreck in the making, and she joins us next. ♪ ♪

rick: all right, take a look at this. strong winds kicking up desert sands in arizona. a giant wall of dust spotted in casa grande right near phoenix, that area yesterday. dust storms like this are not uncommon in the this time of year. they're known in the weather world happening when downdrafts raise a wall of dust and sand and causing problems for everybody. jamie: right now we're just two months away from the signing up of health insurance from those exchanges promised under obamacare, but many on the hill are having their doubts all of this will go off without a hitch. and our next guest admits the white house should just admit it's not ready. congresswoman diane black sits

on the ways and means and budget committees, and she was a nurse for 40 years. congresswoman, thank you for being with us. >> you're very welcome. thank you for having me. jamie: one of the things you've cited in asking for this to just slow down til they can get it right -- which it's your opinion that they won't -- was that 15 times secretary sebelius told you no more delays, we're ready. why don't you think they're ready? >> well, she did tell us that in our ways and means committee meeting 15 different times back in april, there will be no delays, there will be no delays. and yet over the july -- excuse me, the july the 4th holiday first we learned there would not be -- there would be a delay in the employer mandate, and then second we learned on july the 5th while we were all celebrating our country's birthday in a 600-page treasury blog the final rules, and right in the middle of that buried in the middle was this little provision that said, by the way, we're not ready of verification

for people's incomes qualifying for subsidies. huge problem where we're going to have rampant fraud and abuse in this program and hard working taxpayers are going to end up paying for this train wreck. we're not ready. jamie: you have been told efforts are being made. you don't think that's enough? >> well, you know, it seems awfully strange three weeks ago they didn't have the technology ready to verify income, and all of a sudden yesterday in our ways and means committee we had mr. cohen from hhs say, oh, by the way, three weeks later, now we can do that. and it was a little bit, um, of a slight of hand the way he said it because they do provide in the law that they are going to do an audit, they'll do a random check of whether -- probably be about 20%, but he said they're going to do now a 100% random. waiting to see just what this new directive is going to say. i understand it's not going to be by rule, that they're just going to put out a statement of how they're going to be doing this. and so i do have a question:

what are you going to use? how can you guarantee us that you're going to be doing verification 100% of the time so that we don't have fraud and abuse? here's the other thing. the two key planks of their bills were if you did not have employer-sponsored insurance, then you could qualify. and if you met the income range, you could qualify. these are two very large planks. and both of those they've acknowledged they are not ready to do. sixty days out, it's a train wreck ready to happen. the president needs to delay this, just admit they're not ready and delay it. jamie: and you're working on legislation, i understand, that will protect taxpayers from what? >> well, it will protect the taxpayers from the fraud and abuse. we are going to require them to follow their law. look, if i could get rid of the whole thing tomorrow and do something that was more patient-centered and market-based, we would do it. but until then i want to protect the taxpayer from the fraud and abuse that we're just saying follow your own law. your law says that you

electronically have the ability to be able to check for this verification of income, now do it. jamie: what about the nominee for the irs? obviously, the irs will be tasked with enforcement and implementation to a great degree. what's your thoughts on our, the nominee that's been presented? >> well, i don't really know a lot about him. i will start to read, but i know he's got a big job. i hope he's ready for that job, because there's some real cleaning out to be done in the irs. people were already suspicious about the irs and how they use their information, and we have -- they have only confirmed it in the irs by what they have done most recently. jamie: thank you so much, congresswoman black. it's great to have you on. >> thank you. it was great to be with you. jamie: rick? rick: "happening now" coming up at the top of the hour. my friend, jon scott, has a preview. jon: 13 minutes away, in fact, rick, good morning to you. congress is set to vote for the 40th time to repeal obamacare.

well, get used to hearing about it, because congress is getting ready for its summer break. town halls will be held all across the country with both sides gearing up for protests, door to door campaigning and an avalanche of television and internet advertising. it's like campaign season all over again, and we are all over it. plus, a slew of studies out on health and diet. what we're learning about exercise. and the wooly mammoth, could it be brought back to life? cloning the distant past, coming up on "happening now." rick? rick: we'll be watching. jon scott, thanks very much. coming up next, nasa putting up a suggestion box asking for your ideas in dealing with asteroids. and now the space agency's getting bombarded with proposals. a lot of you have some very good ideas on what to do about these things, and we'll talk about it right after this. ♪ ♪

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jamie: at this hour a volcano know in mexico is spewing gas, ash and lava. the volcano is just 40 miles from mexico city, and its activity impacting some 20 million people. so you can explain with the volcano it's being closely watched, obviously, as officials say that volcano's been active for at least 500,000 years. the folks there getting out of the way, there's been at least three resumptions. finish. rick: nasa received hundreds of suggestions from various projects involving asteroids including ideas on how to deal with giant space rocks that are on a collision course with the planet earth. corey powell is editor with discover magazine. good to see you, corey, thanks

for coming in. when i think about destroying asteroids, i think of that atari video game. [laughter] but nasa's reaching out to regular, everyday people and saying you've got any ideas on this? >> they're calling it a grand challenge, and what that means is they're reaching out to everyone, to individuals, to company companies, to foreign agencies. it's basically saying, you know, we can tap into the larger brain trust out there and see if there are ideas we're not thinking about or just to find out what all the technologies are out there. it's partly an acknowledgment that the private space industry has really in some cases moved beyond what the government's doing. and it's also, i'd say, kind of a refreshing openness that nasa is saying we're willing to consider any idea. rick: okay. and they've gotten about 400 ideas so far. we don't know if they've had any winners yet, but what's the idea? to sort of harness an asteroid so if we can figure if we can do

something with it, or is it to keep it from colliding with earth? >> right. well, the specific proposal on the table is the asteroid redirect mission. it's something in the 2014 nasa budget to get going on this, and there's actually some fight going on between the house and the senate whether or not this is going to happen. but the idea is, it's an exploration mission as much as anything. an asteroid's about 20 feet across. tow it back to the earth, put it in orbit around the moon and then send the astronauts to explore it. it's basically, you know, if you can't go to the mountain, you know, bring the mountain to you. it's basically that idea. once you develop that technology, so two things it lets you do. one is from as a human exploration thing, it lets you go to explore an asteroid, do something we've never done before, but if you see an asteroid coming your way, you know how to move it. rick: something that we could

gain from asteroids? i was reading an article that say they may contain a natural resource that would actually benefit us. >> absolutely. that's sort of a step beyond where we are right now, but if you think about what is the next, you know, where do you go next from here, people are talking about building a space-based industry that, you know, it would be great if you could actually build your satellites in space and not have to launch everything with rockets. there are two companies one called plan story resources and aerospace industry, they're developing plans on how you would grab a 3-d printer, wrap it to an asteroid and start building parts in space. in the long term, i think it's a possibility. it's not just fantasy. rick: wouldn't it be great if some guy working on stuff in his basement comes up with the solution to this? >> which is the cool thing about the 3-d printer idea. a lot of them are guys in the basement, they're tinkerers,

people who go to maker fair and things like that. so who's to say? some of the great ideas of where you go next may be coming from those very unconvention call directions. rick: corey powell with discover magazine, interesting stuff. thanks so much for coming in. >> thank you. jamie: an extraordinary show of strength from michele knight. she stared down the man who kept her in the chains for more than a decade. ariel castro is heading to prison. a look at what the future holds for the three women and a child he held prisoner. the postal service is critical to our economy.

delivering mail, medicine and packages, yet they're closing thousands of offices, slashing service and want to layoff over 100,000 workers. the postal service is recording financial losses, but not for reasons you might think. the problem? a burden no other agency or company bears. a 2006 law that drains $5 billion a year from post office revenue while the postal service is forced to overpay billions more into federal accounts. congress created this problem, and congress can fix it.

jamie: i definitely may have to grab one of these. rick folbaum has been here 17 years, i have had the honor and privilege of working with you for 11. you're going to a place i love, and we're going to miss you so much. such a professional and a great, great guy, and because you are sunshine, i want to give you some protection from the sun. you can tell folks where we'll find you. we love you, rick. rick: and thank you so much. thanks to everybody over the

years for all of the support, and everybody here at fox has been great. i'm headed down to miami for a new adventure and news on that coming up soon, but thank you so much. and thanks for this. and i can't wait to see -- jamie: you've got to keep your good looks, you know? rick: all right. take care, everybody. "happening now" starts right now. jamie: bye, everybody. jon: a fox news alert and a worldwide travel warning coming from the state department focused on threats from al-qaeda. the mideast and northern africa are particularly part of this warning about the continued potential for terrorist attacks. the state department says u.s. citizens should take every precaution to be aware of their surroundings and to adopt appropriate safety measures to protect themselves when traveling. of course, this comes on the heels of the closure of several of our embassies in middle ian countries -- can middle eastern countries as a result of these warnings. as we get more information, we'll bring it to you here on